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Buying well · October 3, 2023

What a $45 tote on Craigslist actually costs you

A cheap container is not a discount. It is an unpriced transfer of risk.

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We are asked about this constantly, usually defensively, as though we would be offended. We are not. Cheap containers have real uses — but the price gap is not margin, it is transferred risk, and it is worth pricing.


First, the honest part

A $45 container from a classified ad is often a perfectly good container. Somebody had it behind a building, wants it gone, and has no idea what it is worth. For ballast, for erosion control, for cutting up into planters, for a dust-suppression tank on a construction site, it may be the single best value in this entire trade. We have bought plenty ourselves.

So this is not an argument that you should always buy from a yard. It is an argument that the $85 difference between that container and a properly reconditioned one buys specific things, and that you should know what they are before you decide you do not need them.

What the $85 actually pays for

Where the price difference goes on a 275 gallon container
ItemCost to usWhat happens without it
Prior-contents verification$4You are guessing what is in the polymer
Interior wash to L2$34Residue transfers into your product
Exterior wash and de-labelling$6You ship under someone else's hazard placard
New gasket$4The most common cause of a weeping outlet
Valve rebuild or replacement$11A seat that drips forever
Cage squaring and weld repair$9A container that will not sit flat or stack
Leak test at pressure$5You find the leak when it is full
Grading and photography$3No recourse if it is not as described
Overhead, handling, margin$9

That is not a rhetorical table; those are close to our actual per-unit costs. The margin on a reconditioned container is thinner than most buyers assume, which is why yards that skip the wash and the test can undercut us so dramatically. They are not more efficient. They are selling a different product with the same name.

The four places it goes wrong

1. Anything that touches food, drink or livestock

Unknown history plus biological consumption is the combination we refuse to sell into, and a private seller has no mechanism to refuse it. The container may be perfect. You have no way to establish that, and neither does the seller, and the failure mode is not "the container leaks" — it is "the product is contaminated and nobody knows why for six weeks".

2. Light-coloured or fragranced products

Absorbed odour and stain transfer are permanent, invisible until you fill the container, and effectively unrecoverable. We have taken calls from people whose white lotion base came out faintly grey and faintly of pine. Nothing was wrong with the container. It had held pine-scented cleaner for two years, and HDPE remembers.

3. Anything you will move filled

An untested container is an untested container. Ours are water-filled and held at pressure with the valve both open and shut before they leave. That test catches perhaps one container in forty. One in forty sounds small until you are the one, in a truck, on I-35.

4. Anything where a crease has been missed

A sharp fold in the sidewall is the one defect we treat as fatal, and it is genuinely easy to miss on a container standing in long grass behind a warehouse. HDPE that has been folded is permanently stress-damaged and it will crack there, usually when full, usually at the worst moment. If you take nothing else from this post: run your hand over the sidewalls.

A decision rule that fits on a card

  1. Will something living consume what goes in it? Buy documented, from a yard.
  2. Will the container travel filled? Buy tested, from a yard.
  3. Does the product's colour or smell matter? Buy rebottled.
  4. Is it water, waste, ballast or raw material for a build? Buy the cheap one, and inspect the sidewalls.

About a third of the enquiries that reach our order desk fall into category four, and we tell those people to go and buy the cheap one. We would rather they came back for the load that matters than felt they had been oversold on the one that did not.

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